1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:08,000 Studija 2 presents 2 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:13,879 A film by Agnė Marcinkevičiūtė 3 00:00:46,799 --> 00:00:52,119 Where Does That Shining Come From 4 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:59,440 A film about Nomeda Saukienė 5 00:01:13,159 --> 00:01:19,039 Who could skin it? A freshly hit fox... 6 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,960 - I would pay money. - What money? 7 00:01:23,359 --> 00:01:28,000 First of all, we need to put some salts on it, if we want to skin it. 8 00:01:28,159 --> 00:01:30,640 And we need to dry it out. 9 00:01:30,799 --> 00:01:32,519 Right now it‘s important to skin it, right? 10 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,760 Right, so that the legs stay intact. 11 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,799 - So you call somebody. - Okay. 12 00:02:35,879 --> 00:02:39,039 - Hello! - It‘s a very big inconvenience for her. 13 00:02:39,199 --> 00:02:42,959 - Would you be able to do it? - I‘m a hunter, actually... 14 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:47,800 I'd need to detach its nose from the inside though the ears, the eyes, even. 15 00:02:49,479 --> 00:02:51,799 - Flies are on it already. - Yes, they are. 16 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,760 Flies are always there... Yes. 17 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:58,280 My wife was going to the market when she saw a dead cat on the bridge. 18 00:02:58,439 --> 00:03:00,199 And they were cleaning the street at the time. 19 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,520 She said, “don‘t throw it away, my husband will bury it.“ 20 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,080 Because we were fond of the cat. The whole neighborhood was. 21 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,120 - And then? - Well, nothing. my husband will bury it.“ 22 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,759 Later I went to bury the cat, but it was gone from the bridge. my husband will bury it.“ 23 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,559 A neighbor was mowing his lawn today. 24 00:03:14,719 --> 00:03:17,039 He told me, “the cat laying there will start to smell.“ 25 00:03:17,199 --> 00:03:20,199 - They just dropped it, right? - They just threw it over our fence. 26 00:03:20,759 --> 00:03:23,959 So, since Wednesday... Jesus Christ, what a smell. 27 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,360 I know. Someone threw a dead cat over our fence once, too. 28 00:03:27,719 --> 00:03:30,680 - Best of luck to you. - Thank you for trying to help. 29 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,199 All I have to do now is arrange and paint them. 30 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,280 I can sit here for a couple of days and look. 31 00:04:07,439 --> 00:04:11,560 Figure out what draws me to painting... 32 00:04:11,719 --> 00:04:14,759 I can rearrange the flowers, change their places. 33 00:04:14,919 --> 00:04:18,159 Sometimes it‘s a vine, or a leaf... 34 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:24,120 Everything comes down to words, a theory of some kind. 35 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:30,239 The painting itself has to surprise me, first of all. 36 00:04:30,399 --> 00:04:33,319 When you start, you think you don‘t know and can‘t do anything, 37 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,040 and it always seems like this time will turn out to be better. 38 00:04:36,199 --> 00:04:38,879 But it turns out the same over and over again. 39 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:43,480 Either not right, or the same. 40 00:04:46,959 --> 00:04:55,639 As I look at the shrubbery she paints, I‘d rip my hair out if I had any. 41 00:04:55,800 --> 00:05:00,800 I would never be able to paint anything similar. 42 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:08,640 She has an eye for colors, which I don‘t understand at all. 43 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:15,680 When we exhibit our art together, I feel uncomfortable. 44 00:05:18,879 --> 00:05:23,399 She reinvented the meaning of beauty. 45 00:05:24,959 --> 00:05:32,159 Beauty is synonymous with ugliness these days. 46 00:05:32,319 --> 00:05:36,079 But she paints really beautifully. 47 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:43,639 Maybe her paintings would be different, but look at that tiny studio of hers. 48 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:49,639 What more could she possibly fit in there? 49 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,600 Everyone does what they want to do. 50 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:01,280 Unless they want fame. Then they do what needs to be done. 51 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:08,080 What annoys me when talking to Nomeda, 52 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:13,960 is her saying, “it‘s time to pick up the apples“ 53 00:06:15,439 --> 00:06:18,639 or, “the stoves need to be cleaned.“ 54 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,479 And then I get mad. 55 00:06:25,319 --> 00:06:29,480 Life would be ideal if she didn‘t say these things. 56 00:07:01,759 --> 00:07:05,159 - Mommy... - What? Okay. 57 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,560 Give me, I'll stroll it. 58 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,759 - There. - Well... 59 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,400 - It‘s not that good. - That one is less of a success. 60 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,280 - This one? - No, this one is really good. 61 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:23,840 - Well, yes. One out of three, that‘s... - The other two are also really good. 62 00:08:41,159 --> 00:08:47,839 When it's just two of us, we don‘t cook a lot. 63 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:53,919 Sometimes we fry potatoes together in the evening, in the winter. 64 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,080 But mostly each cooks for themselves. 65 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,360 When one of us is hungry, we‘ll fry an egg. 66 00:09:00,519 --> 00:09:03,600 One first, the other after that. 67 00:09:03,759 --> 00:09:07,960 After eating, we do our own thing. 68 00:09:29,159 --> 00:09:32,959 Nomeda, does a meaning have any meaning? 69 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:42,040 How would I know? You‘ve asked me this once before. 70 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:01,320 See, you have a lot of free time. And I don‘t. 71 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,639 But would you want to live forever? After death. 72 00:10:05,799 --> 00:10:11,199 Like a lightbulb in a light bulb garland? No. 73 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:15,960 How do you imagine yourself not existing? 74 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,399 It‘s also not something anyone would want. 75 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,199 No, so far. I‘m really needed. 76 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:32,199 As long as a person is needed, they will want to exist. 77 00:10:45,159 --> 00:10:47,000 - Hello? - Hello, Nomeda. 78 00:10:47,159 --> 00:10:50,439 - Hello, Alvydas. - Well, how are you? 79 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,960 I‘ve allowed Monika to go for a swim, so now we are messing around with Elenytė. 80 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,919 Very nice, when the weather is warm. 81 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,800 Listen, Nomeda, I have a serious question about the exhibition. 82 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,800 What are we going to do about your exhibition? 83 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,080 If we‘re doing anything, it needs to be done well. 84 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:15,240 - Doing it haphazardly isn‘t worth it. - Of course, yes. 85 00:11:15,399 --> 00:11:19,879 - And then there‘s the opening. - Yes, the opening. 86 00:11:20,039 --> 00:11:21,799 So we need to invite someone. 87 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,000 Anyway, I really don‘t want anyone to come. 88 00:11:25,159 --> 00:11:31,719 - I don‘t want a big party either. - Yeah, because your birthday is really soon. 89 00:11:31,879 --> 00:11:34,960 My mom‘s already had hers. I don‘t want a party even more. 90 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:39,360 When will we get to wish you a happy birthday? 91 00:11:39,519 --> 00:11:42,120 You figure it out if you want to do it. 92 00:11:42,279 --> 00:11:46,959 You can give me a peck on the cheek and that‘s it. 93 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:51,919 Okay. But the space is yours, so you think about the exhibition, okay? 94 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,680 I don‘t think anyone will come. 95 00:11:56,879 --> 00:12:02,360 I don‘t intend to have a party. I can‘t be bothered. 96 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,240 I am more concerned with the exhibition. 97 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,480 What do you think about a bigger exhibition? 98 00:12:09,639 --> 00:12:12,039 Does it need to be held? It wouldn‘t be feasible. 99 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,560 It won‘t happen by itself. 100 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:21,000 Nothing can be done if you don‘t have a vision of it. 101 00:12:21,159 --> 00:12:25,600 - Yes, a vision comes first. - Did I paint this part? 102 00:12:25,759 --> 00:12:29,840 Yes, you‘ve painted the bottom of it, but the sides haven‘t been done yet. 103 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,279 Never mind. 104 00:12:33,879 --> 00:12:36,159 Done. 105 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,799 That‘s what‘s going to happen, I‘m telling you. 106 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,519 - Hold it at the bottom. - It‘s okay. 107 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,399 The very bottom. 108 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:03,799 - Let go of it. - That‘s fine. 109 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,640 I‘ll just count them, maybe that‘s enough. 110 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,759 Does this look okay to you? 111 00:14:36,519 --> 00:14:39,000 Well, how can it be okay? 112 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:47,360 This doesn‘t look okay to me. If it looked okay, I‘d be satisfied. 113 00:14:48,559 --> 00:14:52,439 Look, wait, did we have the one with... 114 00:14:55,399 --> 00:14:59,639 We had this one already, right? With those and those foxes. 115 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,560 To the side? 116 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,360 And some painting beside it to create a pause of sorts. 117 00:15:15,559 --> 00:15:17,519 - That doesn‘t look good. - No. 118 00:15:17,679 --> 00:15:19,879 Bad, very bad. 119 00:15:20,039 --> 00:15:24,799 Instead of these, let‘s try the blue one. 120 00:15:26,159 --> 00:15:32,639 - Here. Move it. - Move the big ones away. 121 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,440 - Well, it‘s not good. - Not good. 122 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,680 You bring a lot of paintings for an empty place, 123 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,600 then you lay them out 124 00:15:55,759 --> 00:15:58,519 and start moving them from one place to another. 125 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,800 And everything goes upside down. 126 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:07,720 Mom would say this is the worst of all. 127 00:16:07,879 --> 00:16:12,159 I think that each time is the worst that it‘s ever been for her. 128 00:16:14,559 --> 00:16:21,399 I‘m not sure if self-criticism is a family trait or just a human thing. 129 00:16:24,759 --> 00:16:27,240 You can‘t hide from it. 130 00:16:33,559 --> 00:16:36,000 - Where‘s Monika? - Here. 131 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,679 So, Mykolas, let‘s move it a little. 132 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,879 Perfect. The two look good together. 133 00:16:54,879 --> 00:16:59,639 And the dog here... It seems like a discovery. 134 00:16:59,799 --> 00:17:03,559 - Shall we hang it up? - I‘ll hold the bottom. 135 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,960 Yes, so that it doesn‘t fall. 136 00:17:07,079 --> 00:17:10,960 - It doesn‘t matter, just... - No, leave a gap. 137 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,159 It is better with a gap, yes? 138 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:18,039 - Are you looking if it‘s straight? - No, we‘re... 139 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,240 Take off your suit, Alvydas. Give it to me. 140 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,920 I will toss it aside. 141 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,799 I‘ve already mentioned that I‘m fine and that I love everything. 142 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:51,039 - I don‘t need anything. - And the furnace heats up quickly. 143 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,680 Well, yes, on average. 144 00:18:53,839 --> 00:18:56,480 It used to fire up very nicely until it blew up. 145 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,840 I‘ve learned how to handle it. 146 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,200 Apart from that, I don‘t have the time. 147 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:09,000 People spend their lives building houses. 148 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,840 Then they decorate it. Then they have to tidy their front yard, 149 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:21,079 mow the lawn, put up outdoors furniture, 150 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,680 And that‘s it, your life is over. 151 00:19:23,839 --> 00:19:26,519 A new house? 152 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:31,440 I‘m already sixty years old. What do I need it for? 153 00:19:31,599 --> 00:19:36,599 This house will last me for the rest of my life. 154 00:19:36,759 --> 00:19:41,240 You see, my parents, your grandparents, 155 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:47,320 they dreamed to have a house and a garden for their entire lives. 156 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,600 I inherited the house and the garden from them. 157 00:19:51,759 --> 00:19:53,519 - Well yes. - I was born here 158 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:58,920 and I was left with this house that I‘ve given up. 159 00:19:59,079 --> 00:20:03,559 it‘s too far away from Vilnius. 160 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:08,680 - And here I am now. - So you see, to build a home 161 00:20:08,839 --> 00:20:13,480 and plant the trees can only be done by one generation. 162 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:19,080 Yes, that‘s right. And that‘s lasted for me, too. 163 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:20,880 Will it last for Elenytė? 164 00:22:23,799 --> 00:22:30,279 They say your husband has already made you famous enough. 165 00:22:31,039 --> 00:22:35,240 - Was it me who made you famous? - Well, yes. So now they know me. 166 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,640 I wonder how I did that. 167 00:22:38,799 --> 00:22:44,599 - It‘s the fact that my last name is Saukienė. - I didn‘t even notice doing so. 168 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:50,400 Is this about when someone said that Sauka‘s influence can be felt in your work? 169 00:22:50,559 --> 00:22:54,519 Well, it‘s felt where I painted foxes. 170 00:22:54,680 --> 00:23:00,720 - Only flowers were left for Nomeda to paint. - That‘s what I said. I can‘t do anything. 171 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,880 I found this big skull in woods. 172 00:23:04,039 --> 00:23:07,920 Before taking it I‘d keep pushing it closer to the path and it laid there for three years. 173 00:23:08,079 --> 00:23:13,480 Then I finally took it home. And then I painted a small painting. 174 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:22,200 I just painted a skull on a fabric with printed Raphael‘s angels. 175 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:28,079 Then I hid it so no one would see it. 176 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:33,519 “Oh, this one must be Sauka's. - Not Sauka's? - It was totally influenced by Sauka, then.“ 177 00:23:35,319 --> 00:23:38,359 And there I am all happy about it. 178 00:23:38,519 --> 00:23:41,680 So I was backed into a corner which had nothing to do with Sauka. 179 00:23:41,839 --> 00:23:45,240 I never liked narrative paintings anyway. 180 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,000 - Oh, that‘s how it is. - Yes. 181 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,680 - Yes? - That‘s right. 182 00:23:51,799 --> 00:23:55,759 I wouldn‘t be capable of painting it, I‘m not pretending I would. 183 00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:00,519 I've wanted to do my own little thing ever since graduation. 184 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,160 - You don‘t have enough pride. 185 00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:12,319 - That‘s the problem with you. - I have been known to have it. 186 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,440 - I knocked it out. - No, not you. 187 00:24:17,599 --> 00:24:24,679 We‘re more inclined to adjust ourselves rather than the environment. 188 00:24:24,839 --> 00:24:27,279 - It'll do the way it is. - Yes, yes. 189 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:34,120 Monika, what do you think about this influence? 190 00:24:34,279 --> 00:24:39,240 Does it matter? I‘m not sure. 191 00:24:55,799 --> 00:24:59,879 My kids support me very much. 192 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:09,960 Sometimes I feel worthless and down in the dumps. 193 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,720 And they believe in me. 194 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,880 I haven't finished the mold yet. 195 00:25:43,039 --> 00:25:46,559 - What are you doing now? - These molds here. 196 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,600 - Did you take that flower out here? - I put it right there. 197 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,759 - You sculpted this one? - Yes, I have done something. 198 00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:01,440 - I haven‘t quite finished it. - It‘s beautiful. 199 00:26:01,599 --> 00:26:03,919 Is the baby cute or ugly? 200 00:26:04,079 --> 00:26:08,480 Well, you are still a messy sculptor. You never do anything with precision... 201 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:15,720 - No, this one turned out very beautiful... - Some people‘s sculptures are very polished, 202 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,800 maybe you don‘t need to do that. 203 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,640 Always do everything according to your personality. 204 00:26:21,799 --> 00:26:25,559 I‘ve overdone it, according to my personality. 205 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,400 You wanted to do a good job. 206 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:35,199 Maybe I‘ll place it as an imitation of The Blessed Virgin Mary. 207 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:40,080 Oh, by the way, could we go to the cemetery? 208 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,840 - Today? - Not necessarily. Sometime soon. 209 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,480 Oh, right, we have to. It‘s that time of the year. 210 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,280 I also want to see our grandmother‘s tombstone. 211 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:55,320 - Let‘s go, then, after I finish this. - What are you working on? 212 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,839 - Something else, as well, or only this one? - This is different. 213 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,519 Another piece of work. 214 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,960 - It didn‘t come out right? - Well, something did. 215 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:19,119 - Turned out pretty decent. - Take your time, then. 216 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:37,000 I should probably smash all of this. 217 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,160 - Oh, something broke off. - No, it didn‘t. 218 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,639 - This one will be you. - What? 219 00:27:47,799 --> 00:27:50,559 - You will be here. - I will? 220 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,559 That wasn‘t hard. 221 00:27:59,079 --> 00:28:01,679 With so much love... 222 00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:11,119 Nice. 223 00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:16,359 - This is for the squatting one. - Ah, for the “Squatting Mykoliukas“ right? 224 00:28:16,519 --> 00:28:19,240 That‘s right. 225 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,280 You didn‘t give me an ear. Or did it break off? 226 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,360 It broke off. It‘s right here. It needs to be picked out. 227 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,440 Ears are also hard to sculpt. 228 00:28:33,599 --> 00:28:36,679 Yeah, I was looking into these corners there. 229 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,480 Your ears are covered now. 230 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,839 Oh, I see. It‘s a bit more upright. 231 00:28:44,759 --> 00:28:49,039 Are the ears important? Well, they kind of are. 232 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,279 It is better to hide ears and hands. 233 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:59,960 When I look more closely I can see the inaccuracies. 234 00:29:00,119 --> 00:29:02,159 Well, you were doing it from one picture. 235 00:29:02,319 --> 00:29:04,000 - It‘s impossible to get it right. - I know, 236 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,120 but I‘m not worried about it this time. 237 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,519 That‘s a good thing. 238 00:29:08,119 --> 00:29:12,079 - It resembles Monika, and that‘s what matters. - That‘s very important. 239 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,599 - Right. Context helps to understand. - Yes. 240 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,039 Okay, so let‘s go to the cemetery, then? Before it gets dark. 241 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:21,920 Yes. 242 00:29:22,079 --> 00:29:24,599 Let‘s just leave this mess here. 243 00:30:44,359 --> 00:30:49,119 It‘s colder in the cemetery than anywhere else in the world. 244 00:30:51,079 --> 00:30:54,879 - Interesting. Why is that? - I don‘t know why that is. 245 00:30:55,039 --> 00:30:57,039 Is it because the cemetery is up on a hill? 246 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,200 I don‘t know. 247 00:31:05,079 --> 00:31:09,759 This painting right here... 248 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:14,680 I love it very much but Daddy doesn‘t. 249 00:31:15,559 --> 00:31:17,279 Really? How did he tell you that? 250 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,200 That‘s exactly what he said, „I don‘t like it.“ 251 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,920 And how did you react? 252 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,920 I said, „well, I do“. 253 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:28,600 Right. 254 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,759 That‘s my children and they are very loveable to me. 255 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,080 They‘re all very alike to me. 256 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,400 Maybe the painting is pathetic. It‘s very small. 257 00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:53,159 When you look at it in a bigger area it seems like it‘s supposed to be much bigger. 258 00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:59,720 Looking at your own work like this is pathetic. 259 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,599 And now – presents from Spain. 260 00:33:02,039 --> 00:33:04,159 - Oh, mom! - What? 261 00:33:05,799 --> 00:33:12,359 - What is that? - This is Spanish wine. There you go. 262 00:33:12,519 --> 00:33:16,319 Wine? You know, this might be too much. 263 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,400 - Too much what? - Too many bottles. 264 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,320 We‘ll reduce the amount, then. 265 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,640 Why so much for me? 266 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,200 - Because you‘ve been there. - Yes. Thank you. 267 00:33:36,759 --> 00:33:41,079 The strangest thing about it was 268 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:46,440 that those little shepherds, illiterate children, of course, 269 00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:51,279 they saw The Blessed Virgin Mary in a pasture. 270 00:33:52,079 --> 00:33:56,799 The city Fatima now stands where those pastures were. 271 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,800 And there‘s this enormous space... 272 00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:03,120 I don't know where to begin describing it... 273 00:34:04,759 --> 00:34:08,599 Imagine it being the size from here to the supermarket. 274 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,480 To our supermarket ‘Maxima‘. 275 00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:20,839 And this massive, wide, and paved space fills up with pilgrims. 276 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,880 Oh, no. I wouldn‘t want that. 277 00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:38,599 - I don‘t like crowds. - I understand. 278 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:47,040 All those rituals, they, well, they irritate me, distract me. 279 00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:48,719 I don‘t like them. 280 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,720 But that is how this group of people, 281 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:57,119 who are such strong believers, express their faith. 282 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,560 But Mommy, why does it have to be a group? 283 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,919 To each their own. 284 00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:10,480 A person can simply feel bad in a group. 285 00:35:10,639 --> 00:35:12,679 I understand that. 286 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,640 But this is a certain amount of pride, 287 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,320 if you believe that you are different from anyone else... 288 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,119 "I am different, I should have..." 289 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:31,360 Why do you think that being different from anyone else is pride? 290 00:35:31,559 --> 00:35:34,119 - I didn‘t say that. - I don't agree with this... 291 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,080 All I‘m saying is that you shouldn‘t think you're the center of attention. 292 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:45,000 Not the center of attention. Quite opposite, maybe the outskirts of it. 293 00:35:45,679 --> 00:35:47,960 - Why the center of attention? - Depends on how you look at it. 294 00:35:48,119 --> 00:35:50,079 Well, you see it as pride. 295 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,439 It could be just a lack of courage. Or... 296 00:35:54,599 --> 00:35:57,599 Or... A lack of understanding. 297 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,800 - Or maybe that. - Or a lack of understanding. Because... 298 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,039 But you don‘t need to understand in order to believe in God. 299 00:36:04,199 --> 00:36:07,839 - Believing isn‘t understanding. - That‘s not true. 300 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,320 That‘s not true. 301 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:15,960 Mindfulness, a strong will, and emotions play a big part in having faith in God. 302 00:36:16,119 --> 00:36:24,159 As long as you only follow your own feelings, your faith will stay handicapped. 303 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:25,800 That‘s what I think. 304 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,000 - I‘m sorry, but that‘s what I think. - But still, you‘re saying that 305 00:36:30,159 --> 00:36:34,159 I‘m driven by my emotions like you know anything about it. 306 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,840 - I‘m not saying that about you. - Are you not driven by your emotions? 307 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,800 I try not to be. 308 00:36:44,159 --> 00:36:51,920 Okay then, mommy, Šarūnas does his work through his will, mind, and heart. 309 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,720 Can you say then that he is not a believer? 310 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,679 - He does his own work. - I don‘t know, how could I say? 311 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,760 But a lot of people could say that. 312 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,800 But then again, you can believe in a lot of things. 313 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,760 - You can believe in good or in evil. - You can‘t see it in black and white. 314 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,880 Yes, you can. They are antagonistic. 315 00:37:13,039 --> 00:37:18,199 Everybody seeks support from the higher powers. 316 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:25,840 And there are two of them - black and white, dark and light. 317 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:35,320 Well, sometimes one chooses the wrong power and becomes its vassal. 318 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,240 How do you know all this? 319 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:46,920 The same way you don‘t. That‘s what I can tell you. 320 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,720 As if this one chose the wrong one, he's already condemned. 321 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,200 I‘m not pointing my finger at anyone. 322 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,239 Already? ‘This painting is finished?‘ 323 00:40:02,199 --> 00:40:05,000 Such silky hair. Won‘t you regret shaving it later? 324 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,920 Of course, I will. A bit. But it‘ll be for Elenytė. 325 00:40:12,559 --> 00:40:13,639 Let me see. 326 00:40:17,599 --> 00:40:18,839 Okay. 327 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:23,760 Can I go, then? 328 00:40:28,039 --> 00:40:30,239 Let me see. Look at that! 329 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:55,599 ...so that Šarūnas, Nomeda, and Monika are pleased with the work. 330 00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:03,240 I would like to thank Vidmantas Ilčiukas and everybody who contributed. 331 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:10,079 - So, Šarūnas, the last word is yours! - No, I already told everything I wanted. 332 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:11,800 Oh, only one word? 333 00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:15,320 Thank you! 334 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,400 Šarūnas will sign the autographs in the cafe. 335 00:41:34,559 --> 00:41:36,119 So, what do you think of it? 336 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,039 It‘s horrible. 337 00:41:39,639 --> 00:41:44,480 I‘ll take the book cover off. Look at the book itself. 338 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,840 Well, it‘s very nice. 339 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,840 - The cover is blue... - It's noble. 340 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:57,400 -... like your dress. - No, no. It goes well with my glasses holder. 341 00:41:58,199 --> 00:42:01,239 And this goes well with that. 342 00:42:02,519 --> 00:42:06,119 That‘s the contribution I‘ve made when creating this album. 343 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,640 That‘s my input. 344 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,400 Yes, your input is here, the same as everywhere. 345 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:17,440 I was posing for this painting. For every one. 346 00:42:17,639 --> 00:42:21,039 Well, you have the most beautiful figure in Lithuania. 347 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,320 - Used to have, maybe. - No, you do now. 348 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,559 Now it‘s enough to take a photograph. 349 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:36,439 Yes, because Nomeda always suffers from bronchitis if she poses in the nude. 350 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,440 Well, before our wedding it was different, she didn‘t suffer then. 351 00:42:42,599 --> 00:42:46,039 - I used to be healthier then. - No... 352 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,280 ...you simply wanted to pose. 353 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,519 I've painted Nomeda and our children. 354 00:42:55,679 --> 00:43:00,119 These are the beautiful things I‘ve done in life. 355 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,600 - That‘s sacred. - Okay, I will look for... 356 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,400 As for the rest, I made it ugly and horrible. 357 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,840 Okay, I will take a look where that child is. 358 00:43:14,519 --> 00:43:15,960 Oh, that‘s not a pretty one. 359 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,720 Very ugly. 360 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:25,160 Some of them are insufferably ugly, your paintings. 361 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:31,000 - This is Mykoliukas, and this is Nomeda. - Well, that‘s... 362 00:43:31,159 --> 00:43:35,319 Mykoliukas and Nomeda are playing with the stick in the puddle. 363 00:43:36,079 --> 00:43:41,519 - Here is the whole painting. - And this is Monikutė and Daddy. 364 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,039 He‘s trapped. But Daddy‘s got his underwear on! 365 00:43:45,199 --> 00:43:49,159 Oh, you don‘t have any underwear on? I‘m very unethical. 366 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:55,760 - Selfish, even. - Yes, I know that. 367 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:05,079 I only try to look at the visuals without trying to figure out the story 368 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,159 that the painting is depicting. 369 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:15,559 A few times Šarūnas couldn‘t figure out what to name a painting. 370 00:44:16,599 --> 00:44:20,400 Yeah, Nomeda has named a few of my works. 371 00:44:21,079 --> 00:44:25,159 - She gave them beautiful names. - I can‘t remember any right now. 372 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,400 A simple example here: “The Shit Collector“. 373 00:44:28,679 --> 00:44:32,199 Often I‘ll overdo it, but Nomeda controls me. 374 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:37,079 You really liked the one where a knight is visiting his lover‘s grave. 375 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:43,399 Yes, I tried noticing that there really is a knight there. And a grave. 376 00:44:43,559 --> 00:44:48,480 After that I started liking the painting with the title that you gave. 377 00:44:48,639 --> 00:44:55,119 The painting doesn‘t have to be made narrower than it really is. 378 00:45:05,519 --> 00:45:09,079 Irena, I told you not to knock on the window, you always scare me! 379 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:17,120 Come in, Irena. Look, we opened the album in your honor. 380 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:21,240 - I brought you something. - What did you bring me? 381 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,600 Look at how beautiful it is. 382 00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:26,759 - Wow, Irena! - Look at that. 383 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,840 - Hell, I'm impressed. - Yes, yes. 384 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:34,039 - Look at that! - And the tail, and the legs. 385 00:45:34,199 --> 00:45:38,319 Dear God, Irena, this is the second fox from you. 386 00:45:38,599 --> 00:45:42,039 You gave me one without a tail once, remember? 387 00:45:42,199 --> 00:45:44,719 The man made an effort, so here you are! 388 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,519 Where did he get these eyes? 389 00:45:47,679 --> 00:45:51,919 - The eyes, and the nose... - When will I get to see the book? 390 00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:58,079 - The book? I‘ll show it to you now. - Wow, it‘s heavy. Some eight or ten kilos. 391 00:45:58,519 --> 00:45:59,159 There. 392 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:01,720 There, look. 393 00:46:02,559 --> 00:46:07,679 It‘s made from the photo where the neighbor is beating you. 394 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,480 - You are lying down. - I won‘t visit you anymore. 395 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,119 He also painted the cabbages you‘d brought. 396 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:22,720 - But we don‘t fight, we‘re friends. - Look, he wants to beat you. 397 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:28,640 That's okay. I‘ve lived with you for a long time. I know what you need, and why. 398 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,800 And I don‘t care where you will paint me and why. 399 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,639 - But you see... - It‘s art, you need to understand it. 400 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,560 I want to take the book home and show it to my friend. Is that okay? 401 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,599 How can I refuse? I have to pay you back for the fox. 402 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,440 - Yes, how can you refuse me? - What a fox! 403 00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:46,679 - When should I come for a book? - So now I‘ll have to paint this fox. 404 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,880 How extraordinary! She‘s like a human being. 405 00:46:50,599 --> 00:46:52,440 Just like a human being. 406 00:46:52,639 --> 00:46:57,719 So you will have a busy winter. You can enjoy it. 407 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,480 But she looks angry. 408 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,360 She is looking at me with suspicion before I have painted her. 409 00:47:04,519 --> 00:47:06,440 You will tame the look. 410 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,480 So, the era of the foxes is not over yet. That‘s how it is. 411 00:47:11,639 --> 00:47:14,119 - You‘re right. - Yes, yes. 412 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,280 You‘ll be busy in winter. 413 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:21,440 People used to bring me aloe vera, and now foxes. 414 00:47:22,159 --> 00:47:25,960 How else can you help a neighbor? It‘s a nice thing to do. 415 00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:40,239 I‘m taking this. I don‘t know what it is, but... 416 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,599 Did Irena bring it?